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And he goes home for a few days a hero. For much the same reasons. Really? You know, he does it without humility, without- without a lot of doubt. And so, Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. Imagine how it feels to have an award-winning team by your side through the mortgage process. So- so first of all, could you just like, uh, when did he live and what did he look like and that kind of stuff? What makes boys boys and girls girls. That's one of the things that we need to know. Meaning to life to reveal itself in a way that restores order and gives us hope that all of this isn't just meaningless chaos. Right? It's absolutely essential. Obedience droops to about 40 percent [inaudible 00:15:40]. Uh, we ask "Who did you think about killing?" It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. But 75% of the people who worked for him at the institute, they were Jewish. I mean-, So again, the baseline study is the one where 65 percent of the volunteers-, But in experiment number three, if they put the shock-ee in the same room-, With the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person that he's shocking-. Radiolab is supported by Casper. Y-P-R-E-S. Actually, the Americans called it Yeeps. There's you, and there's two other participants. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. And he said, "To start, you want to know about bad? That's my opinion that's where I'm going to stand on it. (beep) God. Just to back up for one second. And he says, "Can I come over and sleep on your couch? To find page after page of yeses. I'm gonna-. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we if they're worthwhile doing, they're not always easy. Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts Kittens Kick The Giggly Blue Robot All Summer 2.7K views over 2 years ago 41:58 With the recent passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, there's been a lot of debate about how much power the Supreme Court should really have. Quite literally. Yeah. They will spare his son if he fessed up and tells them what they need to know. The subjects are 40 males between the ages of 20 and 50. Well the thing that haunts me about the why question is that I'm reminded of one of the oldest stories in the Bible, which is the story of Job. They're supposedly chums, but General Othello has no idea that Iago-. That guy yelling of course was an actor and the shocks weren't real, but the questions in the air at the time were very real. Year 2003. That he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. But we will do it on our own if we think it's good.". And that's all the difference in the world. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. They wanted someone who was really thrillingly bad, but in the end, was, uh, redeemed a bit. At high temperature. That's correct, because it takes such energy and pressure to separate it, its trivalent bond is so strong that when it comes back together, that energy is released, it can be used for life or death. Well, let's talk about Fritz Haber. So the subjects seem willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say, "It's an order.". Okay, well actually the one thing that the study really doesn't show is that people obey orders. That's one of the things we have to know and that's why it's okay to let out. Dylan Keith is our director of sound design. He brings her up as an example of a- of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. And, uh, I heard about him from science writer Sam Keen. I got to tell you, um, I'm not totally comfortable that you are providing all the information about-. Fact is if you don't continue, uh, we're going to discontinue the experiment. He could do anything. Yeah let's . The good Iago who makes you want to shower the minute you leave the theater 'cause you are sullied by him. An experiment is being conducted in the elegant interaction laboratory at Yale University. So, you ask like, why do people do bad things? Go. That's it? It's about how far would these people go. You've touched me. And so when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? "From this time forth, I never will speak a word." I'm really proud of Job, he believes in me, and he trusts me in so much, and he has such great faith in me. This is what totally pulled me into the story. He claimed they were in the middle of a sex act, he would get distracted, something would happen, he just kind of went crazy, he had snapped; and almost blaming the victims. You're telling this [inaudible 01:02:30]. And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution. September 15, 2022 Radiolab for Kids and WNYC Studios present Terrestrials, a six-episode miniseries hosted by Lulu Miller (co-host of Radiolab . So, during World War I Haber's institute had developed a formulation of, um, insect killing gas called zyklon. And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him and he says-, Like, through his teeth. This is Everybody was desperate for sources, new sources of nitrogen. Time's up. In those days if you're a convicted male felon, you are strung up, but you're not allowed to hang until you die; you're cut down before then. It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. I might even tilt towards saying he's a little good to be honest. I got to tell you, I'm not totally comfortable that you're providing all of the information [inaudible 00:57:52]-. The Germans on one side, the French, the Canadians and the British on the other. Like, you know, "Who are you?". He travels to the front. Three, two, one. However, that leaves behind 20 million Germans. Uh, walked in and asked his wife, uh, where this friend of mine was. Each answer just begs another why. I think you got to answer it, "With him." ", "Even- even when their sorrows almost were forgot. Get $50 towards select mattresses by visiting casper.com/radiolab and using code radiolab at checkout. So, you're saying they're shocking these people because they thought it was worthwhile? comment. But what you're doing is for the good of Germany, and this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". Check out the Blank Slate, a book by Steven Pinker, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. And almost like blaming the victims. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. This is Jeff Jensen, and he's a reporter in LA. Okay. And he was someone who had very big ambitions. That's radio producer Ben Walker. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? Hmm. You could say people were bat (beep) crazy. And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'". "Oh, you tell me sir, yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir.". Now, of course, you could find some nitrogen out in the world. Times. Humans. This story made us wonder is David's friend, is he unusual? They couldn't deploy it. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then separate your head; which is put on a post. It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. In the best of your memory, which word was matched with nice? Oh, that right there, slap some quotations around that. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. That's one of the things that we- that we need to know. Well, you know, you can see that's a good thing. Some- some people described it as a cloud, and then, others described it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land. And you find yourself in a situation where you've got to do something that's hard. But I needed to kill her because of that. And what happens is that your elbowing the nitrogen apart from itself, and then forcing it to bond with the hydrogen in a new way. Radiolab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science, technology in the modern world. In a rage, uh, how? No reason. So, in the end where do you come down? Because, ultimately, the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. Visit rocketmortgage.com/radiolab. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. If you breathed it in, it sort of irritates your lungs to the extent that they sort of fills up with fluid so quickly that you sort of drowning in your own phlegm. The Blank Slate follows one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind as he explores the idea of human nature and its moral emotional and political coverings. So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. After all, he knows what he can stand. When you press one of these switches all the way down, the learner gets a shock. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some RadioLab credits. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting a thought that he had anything to do with Zyklon B, but he did. My father's trying to, like, reach out to him. It has enough what they used to call then solar energy. Yeah. If the experiment- if the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". Very distinctive looking man. This is Radiolab, and today we're going to get back, so to speak. She says, "What happened today?" Yeah, I agree with that. We were just enacting an old, very famous experiment that you may have heard about. Even when they go along with the experiment-. And then it was several hours later, in the middle of the night, that I got the call. And then she said, "I actually did this. But harbor saw it as a wonderful success, and wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it, because he felt they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. Okay, so I heard this one from this guy named David-. In a rage how? But if you think that's the right thing. Each answer just begs another why. Those who could still breathe would turn blue. Yeah. Within minutes the gas reached the Allied side. They've got a very plausible, very credible, high status scientist at high status scientific institution. Maybe it's all about doubt in the end. The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies; that's what you do. How many times would they shock that sad-. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. So he starts experimenting. And he believed it. So, Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. At this point, David's moved onto a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. Up until that point, Gary refused to say that "From the minute I picked these women up I wanted to kill them." And then, walks away from his child and his wife dead in the garden and says-. Well, if you dressed it up, and if you had some minor vairance in the paradigm, you could presumable, you know, make- make this up. And Hitler takes over. He knew about it. Reviews . And it's kind of surprising. I got it in front of me, I've just got the data from the Milgram study. Be right back. The one that everybody knows, the so-called baseleine. There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think when you're enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, "What is greater, and what is good?". Maybe this is the time they tell them to go brush their teeth or something. Our thanks to Ben Walker, whose podcast he has a podcast and it's a good one. Um, although there's some (laughs) [crosstalk 00:02:19]. This is basically what Stanley Milgram set out to test. Uh, she, uh, expressed disapproval about his, um, clothing choices. Meaning, I mean, what- what- any idea what was in his mind? He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. When I stand before you, judges of Israel, in this court to accuse Adolf Eichmann. And that tonnages then moves into our food source, our food source then moves into our bodies, and the rough statistics are that half of each of our bodies contains nitrogen from the Haber process. And so he says that and you're like, "Okay, yes come over now. Necrophilia. [inaudible 00:59:42] Christensen. So, I'm just going to go into this other room over here. It is, arguably, the most significant scientific breakthrough of them all. We decided to shake things up at the show.bear with us. He would have each subject sit down at a table. So, he plans to destroy Othello. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). He had an experimenter who wasn't a scientist, but was a member of the general public. I dated her several times a year. But if they were prepared to do that, when I suspect a lot of them would, then we'd say, "These are people who really believe in science, and isn't this a good thing that we have people in our society, who are willing to make sacrifices-. He was always smoking his Virginian cigars. Well all right, I'm starting to feel a little bit better about my fellow man. Well if the idea is that people will do bad if they think it's good, if it's a good noble cause. Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. Today's date Is June 17, 2003. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). And this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". So my father and the other interviewer in that room that morning, Detective John [Matsen 00:58:19], they start using a line, a tact of interviewing that was very. In other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. Then you're kind of done with them. This has allowed the world to have seven billion people. It's called Too Much Information. It's absolutely essential that you continue. He was doing his great science work right around the turn of the 20th century; so right around 1900. With higher and higher voltage. Thanks to all our great storytellers. I mean, it's a pretty big thing to miss. It immediately became apparent that there was going to be difficulties. How do you tell the real baddies from the rest of us? Who they would kill, where they'd do it, when. I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. All right. Two more minutes. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial, quite literally. He would say over and over again. Cruelty, violence, badness. Of course nobody wants to be killing other people. He would have each subject sit down at a table. Okay. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. Like you just did, which happens constantly. He was in this state of fury, he said, and instead of hitting his wife, he smashed his fist into the bathroom mirror, and then realized that he had to leave the house, or he was going to do damage to her. He's bald, he has a potbelly, he has these pince-nez spectacles, he's chomping on a Virginian cigar, he was always smoking these Virginian cigars and he's wearing a fur coat. Now you're saying actually that you could read that, that very dark fact, as being actually evidence of something quite- quite noble. Nitrogen is an essential part of amino acids and proteins. He goes straight to the German [inaudible 00:36:56] and- and he pitches this idea. It's like a downloadable from the internet instant defense for doing wrong, but if you look at Milgram's work closely. Here it goes. Well I mean, I know it does, sir. Radiolab is supported by Audible. That I remember picking her up and-. 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