MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. ga('ads.send', { Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. Why was that her fault? Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. Im still slightly dubious because I dont have the whole video and Im a cynical person but I would like to sincerely apologise for any misinformation I have spread, as it is honestly not what I intend to do with this blog. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. While Mamamoo being popular with the public is widely known, many are unaware of just how many actors, idols, and senior producers they have won over with their authentic shows and cheery personalities. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. The MAMAMOO Introduction Guide of 2022 (Part 1: Members) MOO YT 40K views 7 months ago Is Duolingo Really a Good Way to Study Japanese? heechul just wore a scarf on his head - thats not how anyone wears a hijab properly and white women have been doing that since like the 40s. Theyre one of my favorite groups and its kind of annoying to see people say that Im not a fan just because I made the post. From their raunchy and raw fashion choices to wearing blackface to sing Bruno Mars - let's look back at the highs and the lows as the outspoken quartet celebrate their 6th anniversary as a band This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. Joined: May 2022. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. If you would not be able to handle it being done to you, dont do it to others, no matter how big or famous those other people are. The thing is, it is not just another joke. } This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . ourbridgeisforever:. asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? That crosses every sort of line. Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. One fan shared a detailed card about it along with the message, "And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. if you want to complain about me making this or ask me why i did, please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. (I read your tags) I hope you dont mind me reblogging this, If you do please just tell me and Ill delete it. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. One user asked, "Which culture did u enjoy appropriating the most," while another quipped, "Can we have a spoiler? }); After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. It then grew and grew until every day Mamamoo was receiving complaints about their dancing, calling their vocals fake, and most of all, attacking their looks and hygiene. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). 1,068. Mamamoo - Solar. But this often means the backlash is swift and severe anytime she puts out new content. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). eventAction: 'load' Mamamoo ( Korean : , stylized in all caps) [2] is a South Korean girl group formed by RBW (formerly WA Entertainment) in 2014, composed of four members: Solar, Moon Byul, Whee In and Hwa Sa. if(document.querySelector("#adunit")){ My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. Notifications can be turned off anytime from browser settings. Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. But that explanation was also not bought by many. What are your thoughts? I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). media-tech companies with hubs around the world. That worried him. I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? Mamamoo themselves wrote: We were extremely ignorant of blackface and did not understand the implications of our actions. So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. hitType: 'event', Everyone, dont think of dirty thoughts!, negative comment about Taos skin being dark, cant be too chubby/fat and must have a nice body, He has darker skin than me, doesnt he?, in general, youre skin looks better if you have a lighter skin tone. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Feels bad yo. Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. },false) They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. Villain. It's really difficult to see the hate towards these girls when I see how hard they had to struggle to climb up the ladder when they came from such a small company but I do believe they'll prevail and work hard to improve themselves as they've always been doing since 2014 . hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. Coming in at last place is the debut single of NMIXX, O.O.This song now also holds the distinction of having the lowest average in the history of KSOTY. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. ga('create', 'UA-67136960-15', 'auto', 'ads'); I dont think they take care of their bodies well, Performed with Boom, while he was donning blackface, Called N from VIXX fucking trash among many other things, sneaked into a room in which girls were sleeping and touched them, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, that scenario must have looked like a drug deal., Implied negative things about Goo Hara dating around a lot, If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. According to Koreaboo, throughout the conversations, not a single person from their side attempted to make excuses for their actions. Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. #AskHwasa. now onto the list: *Anything with an asterisk besides it is a fan account and so may not be entirely reliable, though are usually fairly trustworthy. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), eventAction: 'view' Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. I did watch the video when it was up but it was a while ago and I dont remember exactly what he said. Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. ga('ads.send', { eventAction: 'render' Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. kpop groups; soloists; socials and info; Back; kpop groups. When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. gads_event = event; Apink made an exciting appearance on the recent July 1 episode of SNL Korea, but one of the show's skits featuring member Bomi has caused a wave of backlash among fans and viewers. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. ga('ads.send', { If you haven't, let me enlighten you. In order to do that, I must describe the actions Mamamoo has done in the past that received the most vocal and widespread backlash, and then explain what happened as a result. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy kpop stans w/o any recipts https://t.co/rBMH79ZvlD, HELP i dont like hwasa but some of yall going a little to far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too ngl i let out a couples laughs tho#AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/GbxXzX6Fna. And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. Their sound is diverse, but can best be described as a mix between jazz, retro, and R&B. Hope that all made sense! I have no reason not to trust the 2 Korean-speaking people whove come forward and told me it isnt a mistranslation? I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. ), http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117874134598/hi-i-just-wanted-to-comment-on-your-tag-about, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117835308868/ayabewakasa-one-unsubstantiated-article-that, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/118060768918/about-the-issue-of-siwon-saying-no-to-the-fanboy, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/119551166438/baekbitchyeol-catchmeinthedrift. 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. Refresh the page,. All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. 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